Internet Access Providers - Munich, Bavaria, Germany

& a few Web Page Providers Worldwide (by Julian Stacey )

How to set up your own domain. Public Browsing In Munich.

( IAP= Internet Access Provider, ISP= Internet Service Provider, POP = Point Of Presence )

MAIN INDEX

• BSD Travelling Laptops
• DSL In Munich For Personal Use
  • Leased Line Refs
• Presence (NOt access) Provides with BSD as base. scroll down to "Hosting Providers Offering BSD-based Solutions"
• Access Providers - Munich
  • (##) = of particular interest to me, (someone who does not use MS-*, or want MS-* possibly used in ISP billing or config, & does prefer a permanent IP number).
  • ($$) indicates targeted at companies with serious budgets )
  • (MS) indicates need Microsoft Products to access the net or accounts statistics or some such, so of no interest whatever to me or my Unix associates!)
  • Index - Non Commercial
  • Index - Commercial
  • Detail - Non Commercial
  • Detail - Commercial
• International ISPs
• Web Page Providers
• Server Remote Hosting / Co-location Services / Where You Can Rent Rack Space
• Consultants including Vector Systems Ltd. Tel
• Legal Disclaimer
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BSD Travelling Laptops

• Rainer D. wrote:
  Try www.freenet.de; www.compuserve.de; www.tiscali.de; www.msn.de (ok, skip that one) ;
  Skip: Not AOL as Windoze-only & proprietary.
  Try www.google.de search for "internet call by call".
• Harold G. wrote:
  I don't think "internet-by-call" works from hotels. People who often need internet access in hotel rooms etc. usually subscribe to an ISP that offers 0800 (toll free) dialup numbers and then get billed monthly by their ISP for that.
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Satellite DSL

DSL In Munich For Personal Use

• Arcor
  • A bit cheaper than TDSL.
• Defunct Camelot is now taken onver.
• cybernet
  points to both qsc & another
• Deutsche Telekom/T-Online TDSL
  • DM 19.90 upgrade from ISDN to DSL
  • DM 49.00 for flat rate
  • DM 44.89
  • DM 117 Total
• highway-one
• Mobilcom
  • dm 100 flat rate dynamic ip
  • 1 mb/s 199 DM/month 768K 39dm:isdn 29 dm: dsl service 59 DM: DSL += ~120 6 months min dm99 setup 128K up
  • Must dump D. Telekom as phone provider.
• nextra
  dsl scalable
• Strato
  was bad
• Streamgate
  • flat rate dm139
  • dm 20 extra for provision of a fixed IP number
  • they provide a splitter & maybe hub etc. dm 298n
  • set up fee for 6 months 1024kbit/s in, 128 out
  • 6wk delivery
  • no disconnect
  • no volume charge for private use
  • want aufenthaltserlaubnis ! why ?
  • agb restrictive form bad Qs
• SWM Stadt Werke M-Net
  autumn 2001 for private customers flat rate dsl Not using PPOE.
• Q-Net
  SDSL symmetric, fast upload
• QSC
• Verio
  Gary J's domain server web popmail $19/yr static ip

• Leased Line Refs

  • http://onlinekosten.de/flatrate/
  • http://www.callando.de is offering a flatrate at 89 DM/mo with a 3 GB/mo limit.
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Index Access Providers - Munich - Non Commercial

• Buergernetz Muenchen (##) ; . DFN-Verein WIN Shuttle ; . Freenet ; . Germany.Net ; . Muc.De - Munich Internet Verein (##) ; . BIM: BSD in Munich (##) ;
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Index Access Providers - Munich - Commercial

• I've generally stopped updating this part of the index, at about the time firms such as Arcor started offering pay-per-call dynamic-IP services, which do not require prior contracts, I guess these pay-per-call services will compete hard with the small IAPs serving private users, so probably the only new entries I expect to make here will be some firms catering not to private users, but corporate users.

  AOL (America On Line) ; . 1&1 ; . Axis ; . BauNetz ; . BSn ; . Cablesurf Broadband (!!) ; . Camelot (##) ; . CCN - Netsurf (##) ; . Compuserve ; . Connect ; . Cybernet (##) ; . Cubenet (##) ; . DCI ; . EUnet ; . ECRC ; . Cybercity ; . Easy Net ; . Eberts Schack ; . Europe Online ; . Frontier Communications ; . Global ; . Hassler & Mair ; . IBM Informationsnetz ; . Inlab Software ; . Isar Netwerke ; . Innovativ Netwerke ; . Kiosk-Online ; . Kabelnet ; . Klaus ; . Microsoft Network (MS) ; . Ludwig ; . Oberland.net ; . Metronet ; . Nacamar ; . NCI ; . Netplace ; . Roses (##) ; . Securitas ; . SNI = Siemens Nixdorf ($$) ; . SpaceNet ; . ServerNet ; . TalkNet ; . TrustCenter ; . Teamware ; . TouchNET ; . T-Online ; . Trans.Net ; . Viag ; .

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Details - Access Providers - Munich - Non Commercial

• Buergernetz Muenchen Johannes said 4.97: 4000 users, 13 lines, swamped after 17:00, poor transfer rates & drop outs.
  • F: Was kostet der Anschluss?
    A: einmalige Anschlussgeb|hr DM 30,- danach kostenlos.
  • F: Muss ich Mitglied werden im Fvrderverein?
    A: Nein.
  • F: Warum soll man Mitglied werden?
    A: Verein muss alles selbst finanzieren. Keine staatliche Unterst|tzung.
  • F: Welche Vorteile hat ein Vereinsmitglied?
    A: Eine _schvne_ Email-Adresse und Speicherplatz f|r Informationen oder Homepage auf dem Server.
  • F: Was kostet die Mitgliedschaft im Fvrderverein?
    A: Nat|rliche Personen/Privatpersonen DM 60,- pro Jahr Gemeinn|tzige Juristische Personen/Vereine DM 300,- pro Jahr Juristische Personen/Gewerbetreibende DM 600,- pro Jahr
  • F: Ist kommerzielle Nutzung mvglich?
    A: Nein, das Bewerben und Anbieten von Produkten ist nicht erlaubt.
  • F: Wie finanziert sich das B|rgernetz Muenchen?
    A: Mitgliedsbeitrdge, Spenden, Sponsoren
  • F: Welche Zugdnge gibt es?
    A: Modem 28.8 kBit und ISDN 64 kBit
  • F: Was brauche ich f|r meinen Computer?
    A: Modem/ISDN-Karte, Telefonzugang, Software
  • F: Wo und Wann trifft sich das B|rgernetz Muenchen?
    A: Jeden 2. und 4. Montag im Monat im Internet-Cafe in M|nchen (Nymphenburgerstr. 145) ab 19.00 Uhr
  • F: Wie lautet die Kontakt-Adresse?
    A: Foerderverein Buergernetz Muenchen e.V. Postfach 19 03 15 80603 Muenchen
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• Freenet Bayern .
  • Web www.bayern.de/muenchen
  • Supposedly a Free trial - Web address for all Bavarians, then must move to a commercial ISP. The URL may be wrong. Possibly n1epo4tl@_ERASE_ibmmail.com may know the real Freenet people.
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• Germany.Net
  • Web www.germany.net
  • CT Mag 4.98 Page 167 reported: Proxy Pflicht.
  • Free, paid for by advertising, Ref CT Mag 10.96 Page 24 Alternate scheme is 10 DM/Month & 4DM/Meg. Support hot line +49.69.633989.66 Tuesday & Thursday 15:00-18:00
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• DFN-Verein WIN Shuttle
  • Web www.dfn.de
  • Mail burr
  • Mail rauschenbach Prices at ~12/95:
  • Personal Expensive ! : DM 92 : to register you; DM 40 : 20 hours/month, 2 Meg disc, & 150K Web Pages; DM 40 : every extra 20 hours.
  • Libraries Museums etc DM 92 : Connection; DM 50 : 2 Meg Disc, 40 hours, 500K Pages; DM 50 : each extra 40 hours.
  • Research Companies DM 184 : Connection; DM 200 : 4 Meg disc, 20 hours, 150K Pages; DM 200 : extra 20 hours; DM 200 : access to 5M Pages on your host.
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• MUC.DE
  • Mail Email
  • Web www.muc.de
  • Verein zuer Foerderung der privaten Datenkommunikation im Grossraum Muenchen e.V. der Mitglied im IN und somit im WIN ist.
    @ 03.98: DM 42/month, inc own ip address, or DM 27 exc. IP address. modem & isdn access. For non commercial use. No sign up fee, No lengthy termination period.
    @ 2.1998 only a 128K line to net.
    muc.de e.V. 1997 - webmaster@_ERASE_muc.de Frankfurter Ring 193a, 80807 Muenchen. Tel: +49.89.3243695 - Fax: +49.89.32479616
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• BIM = BSD In MUNICH
• If you want to know what special services are available to the Berkeley (Unix) In Munich people, see their web page, (however note that dial in services are not available).
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Details - Access Providers - Munich - Commercial

• 1&amp1
  • Web
  • CT Mag 4.98 Page 167 reported: Insbesondere Mac OS/2 und Linux Besitzer vermissen die notwendige Unterstuetzung bei Einwahlproblemen. , and they don't tell you the DNS either, which is 193.158.2.72 primary, 194.25.0.125 secondary.
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• Axis
  • Web
  • CT Mag 4.98 Page 167 reported: Proxy Pflicht.
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• BauNetz
  • Web
  • CT Mag 4.98 Page 167 reported: Proxy Pflicht.
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• AOL Bertelsmann Online GmbH ( AOL=America On Line )
  • CT Mag 4.98 Page 167 reported: Proprietaere Einwahltechnik.
  • Web www.germany.aol.com
  • Mail Email
  • AOL, Postfach 2101, 33404 Verl
  • 9 DM 90 / Month + 10 Pfennig / Minute, no further charges. Free CD for MS-Windows in CT Mag 4/95.
    CT Mag 10.96 Page 24 said 130,000 Customers
  • BT Freefone 0800 800 001 #15/moth or 2 mth free on 12 month one off connection #20 + local call charge unlimited access guardian thurs april 4 1996
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• BSn: Basis Systeme netzwerk
  • Web www.bsn.com
  • Corporate networks, not for personal accounts. A flexible firm, with staff who can speak German & English, based in Munich (Giesing & Schwabing),
  • Tel +49.89.6928120 Fax +49.89.6928150
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• Cablesurf
  • Web www.cablesurf.de
  • 80dm/month 550kb/s
  • Kabel & Medien Service, Medienallee 24, D-85774 Unterfoehring Tel +49.89.95083220 Fax +49.89.95083222
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• Camelot
  • Web www.camelot.de
  • Web www.camelot.de/~knarf/
  • Run by Frank Bartels
  • UUCP/ZModem/Fax: + 49 89 5469593
  • Mail Email
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• CCN - Netsurf
  • Computer Consultant Network GmbH, Herrn-strasse 48, 80539 Muenchen
  • Tel +49.89.219996.0 Fax 291782
  • Mail Email
  • Mail Email
  • Web www.ccnmuc.net
  • Web www.ccn.net
  • Web 35dm/month all up.
  • Price @ 08/97 DM 35 (from gj, but no personal IP number) als Privatkunde Ihren vollen Internetzugang Kein Zeitlimit. Keine Volumenbeschrdnkung. Keine weiteren Kosten. 24 Stunden am Tag.
  • They used horrible web files, 10K long, loads of ^M, no ^J, Chimera browser didn't like it.
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• Securitas
  • Securitas Internet Systems GmbH, Oettinger- Str 2, 80538 Muenchen
  • Tel +49.89.219977.0 Fax +49.89.219977.22
  • Web http://www.securitas.net
  • Mail Email
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• SNI = Siemens Nixdorf Informationsysteme AG
  • (for firms, not individuals)
  • Web www.sni.de/public/td/is/is-de/is-de.htm
  • Mail General Email
  • Mail Thomas.Mais
  • Otto-Hahn-Ring 6, 81730 Muenchen
  • Tel. +49.89.636.49720 Fax 43532
  • Tel. Herr Olaf Siemens 636 41983
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• Compuserve
  • Mail Email
  • +49 130 114678 Fax +49 89 6657.8008
  • CT Mag 4.98 Page 167 reported: POP3 now available on request.
  • At 11.96
    • Standard: Month:$10 ($0 first month) , 5 hours free, + $3/hour after.
    • SVP: Month:$25 ($15 first month) , 20 hours free, + $2/hour after.
  • Inselkammer- Str 1, 82008 Unterhaching
  • Tel +49.89.6657.2012 Fax +49.89.6657.3500 Web www.compuserve.com/at/nsd/nsd.htm
  • 15 nodes in Germany. Modem (I think): +49.89. 6653.0170 Human: 66535.222
  • Tom Schario SALES@_ERASE_.cis.compuserve.com wrote in 95:
    We are offering a PPP connection to the Internet. This will give you a TCP/IP stack that will allow you to use any internet program you wish. For $9.95 US a month you have unlimited use to the Basic Services and $3 hours of free time in our Internet Services. Anything past the hours will be $2.50 per hour. We also have an Internet Club for an extra $15 US per month will receive a total of 20 free hours of internet services time and it will be a $1.95 per hour for every hour past the 20 each month.
    CT Mag 10.96 Page 24 said 230,000 customers.
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• Connect! Internetservices GmbH
  • Lindwurm- Str 159, 80337 Muenchen
  • Tel +49.89.746138.12 Fax 746138.38
  • Mail Email
  • Web www.connectde.net/
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• Cybernet Internet-Dienstleistungen AG
  • @ 2.1998: For small businesses DM 59/month, own IP #, own email adr, unlimited volume, guaranteed minimum transfer rate.
  • Stefan Georg Ring 19, 81929 Muenchen,
  • Tel +49.89.99315.0 Fax 99315.199
  • Mail Email
  • Web URL dead maybe www.cybernet-ag.net
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• Cubenet
  • @ 5.1998: DM 30 inc mwst/month for private unlimited usage
  • Zugang via PPP (analog oder ISDN), A friend was given upgrade to fixed ip address for no extra charge. Capacity of ~60 lines, not overloaded.
  • CUBENet GmbH, Dachauer Str. 272, 80992 Muenchen, Tel: +49.89.1401635, Fax: +49.89.14079419.
  • They have disgusting black background to their web pages. very hard to read, the pages are glitzy, but its hard to tell which option to click.
  • Web www.cube.net/frmPreise.html
  • Guy with technical knowledge is thomas Knauer.
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• DCI Network Consulting GmbH
  • Zeppelin-str 4, 83599 Halberg- Moos,
  • Tel 0811.562.000 Fax 0811.562.010
  • Mail Email
  • Web www.dcinet.de/
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• Easynet DV GmbH
  • Web www.easynet.de
  • Mail Email
  • Tel.:+49 9131 8967 0, Fax: +49 9131 8967 8, Hot line: 0130/12680
  • Robert Kiessling robert@_ERASE_easynet.de emailed me Fri, 21 Feb 1997: Could you please add us to your list?
  • Naegels- Bach- Str. 25, D-91052 Erlangen
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• ECRC
  • Web www.ecrc.de
  • Mail Email
  • Arabellastr 17, 81925 Muenchen.
  • Tel +49.89.92699.0 Fax 92699.170
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• EUnet a subsidiary of UUNET
  • Web www.germany.eu.net
  • Mail Email
  • DM 400/month upward, for companies, not individuals. Don't know if they have a Munich presence. They're keen on value added services like databank access.
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• Net Connection - Eberts Schack GbR
  • Web
  • Mail
  • Herrn Eberts, Viktoria Str 27, 80803 Muenchen.
  • Tel +49.89.30728514
  • Fax +49.89.30728513
  • DM 28/Month inc 1M home page. Unlimited connect time, 500 Megabyte/month, DM 1/Meg beyond that. (average user needs 100 Meg).
  • Nodes: Muenchen, Tutzing, Geislingen a.d. Steige, Nieder- Vieh- Bach, Massing, Wallers- Dorf.
  • From leaflet in Bauer Computer-markt 1998.11.25
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• Europe Online
  • Web www.eo.lu
  • Web www.europeonline.com
  • Arabellastr 23, 81925 Munich
  • Tel 0180.2319950
  • (with Munich's Burda Verlag)
  • Mail Email
  • Modem: +49.89.19553
  • About 50 modem points in Germany.
  • Enquiries: 0180 23 1995 0
  • THE BUSINESS HAS CEASED, DON'T KNOW IF URLS & BUSINESS TAKEN OVER
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• Frontier Communications Ltd.
  • [ Nov 1995 graham@_ERASE_qss.thenet.co.uk Graham Rawlings says:] They're a fairly new UK-based provider and have lots of Points of Presence in the UK, very good modem-to-user ratio and good telephone support. Most importantly, they're opening a Point of Presence in Munich soon. Their phone number is (+44) 1273 795202. The domain "thenet.co.uk" is theirs.
  • Guessed Web Adr. www.thenet.co.uk
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• Global
  • Global Access Internet Services GmbH
  • Arabellastr 13, 81925 Muenchen
  • Tel +49.89.92402.0
  • Fax +49.89.92402.150
  • Commercial not personal access provider.
  • Web www.global.de
  • Mail Email
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• Hassler & Mair GmbH - Profi.Net
  • Aindlinger Str 7, 86167 Augsburg
  • Tel 0821.70025.0 Fax 0821.70025.99
  • Mail Email
  • Web www.profi.net
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• IBM Informationsnetz / IBM Global Network
  • (Full Internet, slip with dynamic IP addresses, not PPP)
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• Innovativ
  • EU-Verbindungs- Buero fuer Forschung und Technologie
  • Bayern Innovativ GmbH Nuernberg
  • Founded by government initiative.
  • Web www.bayern-innovativ.de
  • Mail Email
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• Inlab Software GmbH - Munich.Net
  • Tel.: +49.89. / 62001600
  • Fax.: +49.89. / 6411160
  • Web www.munich.net
  • Mail Email
  • Entry submitted from Thomas Obermair (of Inlab) obermair@_ERASE_acm.org 10 Sep 1998
    
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• Kiosk-Online
  ralph.pollinger@_ERASE_kiosk-online.de mailed me Thu, 28 May 1998: We would be very pleased if you will note us in your ISP-List.
  • Last Update: 28.05.1998
  • Mail Email
  • Web www.kiosk-online.de
  • Address: ONLINE-KIOSK GmbH, Fabrik- Str 14, 85354 Freising
  • Phone: +49.8161.43070
  • Fax: +49.8161.43071
  • Analog up to 56kFlex, ISDN, leased line over 500 Access lines in Bavaria.
  • Citytarif: Munich and surround (200 local access numbers)
  • We provide access to all services, unlimited, & to proven standards. CGI is (or will be) supported (original German: CGI und weiteres wird unterstuetzt.)
  • Target Users: Small firms & freelancers, medium size firms, industry, sub providers. Private users are advised to use the local Buerger- Netz- Vereine.
  • Our cheapest tarif is DM 30, unlimited by time or volume. Info: http://www.kiosk-online.de/internetprovider.html Special conditions for members of organisations possible.
  • Our Munich area Pop is +49.89.208000, We have about 15 Pops in Bavaria.
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• Kabelnet
  • Web www.kabelnet.de
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• Isar Netwerke GbRmbH
  • (Munich POP for Mail Email
  • They have loads of price tables. Personal analogue modem PPP costs 25 DM / month + per meg transfer: 2 DM national or 7 DM international. Johannes said 4.97: 19 lines, 25/month 1.20/Meg.
  • Mail Email
  • Web www.isar.de
  • Thomas.Meidinger@_ERASE_ISAR.de, I.S.A.R Netzwerke GbRmbH, Arabellastr. 17, D-81925 Muenchen;
  • Phone: +49 89 92091-123; Fax: +49 89 92091-100.
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• klaus
  • Web www.klaus-datentechnik.de == www.kdt.de
  • GJ wrote: You dial an 0800 number to get access and get charged some not unreasonable amount for access. Interesting is that they also give you the option of using raw HDLC. The only ISP I've seen so far who offers that.
  • 6 Pf./min. and it's a 0800 number, so no local phone charges.
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• Ludwig
  • Guessed Web www.ludwig.de
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• Microsoft Network
  • They only got maybe 100,000 customers in Germany, so are closing down, & shedding their customers, after a 2 month warning.
  • http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/ad-16.06.98-000/ MSN schließt Internet-Zugänge

    Der Online-Dienst MSN (Microsoft Network) stellt seine Tätigkeit als Internet-Zugangs- Dienst- Leister ein. An die Kunden ergeht die Empfehlung, spätestens bis Ende Oktober zu T-Online zu wechseln; die notwendige Software sollen sie demnächst erhalten. Als Anreiz will ihnen T-Online bis Ende des Jahres monatlich zwei Frei-stunden bieten. Vorausbezahlte Gebühren erstattet MSN. Die EMail-Adressen sollen bis Ende Januar kommenden Jahres ihre Gültigkeit behalten.

    Das Web-Angebot MSN-Start bleibt bestehen. Microsoft will es als attraktiven Startpunkt für Internet-Surfer etablieren, um diese dann gezielt zu bestimmten Web-Sites zu führen.

    Der Microsoft-Bereichsleiter für kommerzielle Online-Aktivitäten, Michael Konitzer, begründete die Einstellung der Provider-Tätigkeit damit, daß sich die Situation in Deutschland seit der Markteinführung von MSN grundlegend geändert habe. Es gebe heute viele Internet-Provider, die gute Leistungen zu niedrigen Preisen anbieten. Tatsächlich konnte MSN die Erwartungen nicht erfüllen, die Microsoft bei seiner Einführung 1995 gehegt hatte: Der Erfolg des Dienstes blieb weit hinter dem der Konkurrenz zurück. Während die Zahl der MSN-Kunden hierzulande auf 35.000 geschätzt wird, haben die beiden Marktführer T-Online und AOL zusammen etwa hundertmal mehr Mitglieder. (ct/ad)

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• Oberland.net
  • Details unknown
  • Guessed Web www.oberland.net
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• Metronet
  • CT Mag 4.98 Page 167 reported: performance (data rate) awful.
  • CT Mag 4.98 Page 167 reported: Proxy Pflicht.
  • Web www.metronet.de
  • 10DM/Month, unlimited access.
  • Vobis price list 10/96 says: Buy CD with details for 3DM schutzgebuhr.
  • "Online ISDN" 10/96 P77 says Metronet refused to discuss what personal information they'd pass on info to Kaufhof Horten Vobis. Mag also said Internet access is ONLY via proxy, so problems when browsers invoke subsidiary ftp.
    (aus "http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/bn-16.02.98-000/") Metronet: Abkehr vom Pauschaltarif Der Internet-Provider Metronet ändert ab 1.3.1998 seine Preisgestaltung. Der monatliche Pauschaltarif von 9,99 DM (analog) beziehungsweise 19,99 DM (ISDN) entfällt und wird durch einen Zeittarif ersetzt. Danach müssen alle Metronet-Kunden neben einer monatlichen Grundgebühr von 7,50 DM für jede weitere Online-Stunde 2,70 DM entrichten, wobei der Provider minutengenau abrechnet. Altkunden erhalten in den ersten drei Monaten nach der Tarifumstellung ein "Schmerzensgeld" in Form von jeweils zehn Freistunden. Im Zuge der Preiserhöhung will der Provider seine Leistung steigern. Neben zusätzlichen Angeboten beispielsweise im Bereich von Online-Banking will Metronet vor allem die derzeit miserablen Übertragungsraten (siehe Providertest in c't 4/98) verbessern. (ct/bn)
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• NCI Network Consulting & Internet Services GmbH
  • Dr-Ing Rainer Miksch, Osterwaldstr 10, 80805 Muenchen
  • Tel +49.89.368179.44 Fax +49.89.368179.99
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• Nacamar Data Communications GmbH
  • Nacamar Data Communications, Kirchweg 22, 63303 Dreieich, Germany
  • 49-6151-282915, 49-6103-969-0 Voice, 49-6103-969-127 FAX
  • Web www.nacamar.de
  • Mail Email
  • Mail Thomas Trede
  • Private non commercial price list: 30 DM registration; + 15 Dm / month + 5 DM / Meg transferred.
  • About 30 German POPs, 1 of which in Munich.
  • Tel 06103.969.0 Fax 06103.969.127
  • SMTP (eMail) World Wide Web (WWW) NNTP (NetNews) Database (WAIS) Dialog (Telnet) Internet Phone File Transfer (FTP)
  • Accessmodes: SLIP Analog (V32bis) PPP ISDN (64Kbit) UUCP
  • Prices: Private customers: (all mentioned prices are subject to change and German taxes (15% at the moment)) !!! We round TCP/IP-Volumes. 0.49 MB is rounded down and 0.5 MB is rounded to 1.0 MB.
  • Initial Setup fee: DM 30,-
  • monthly Accounting fee: private person DM 15,- Operator of non-commercial mailbox DM 25,- Transfercosts DM 5,- per MB cheaper transfer rates (students, soldiers): DM 4,- per MB
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• NetPlace
  • Web www.netplace.de
  • Mail Axel Bauer
  • (HREF Entry requested by: Axel Bauer Axel@_ERASE_netplace.de ) Tue, 18 Jun 1996 6/96 Internet ISDN Single-User Dialup 64Kbps DM 60
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• Roses (##)
  • Web www.roses.de
  • DM 20/month, no limits, ISDN uses PPP+CHAP.
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• SpaceNet GmbH
  • Web www.space.net
  • Mail Email
  • From: "Sebastian v. Bomhard" svb@_ERASE_idial.de Wed, 30 Jul 1997 48,70 DM / month + VAT for dialup (including 25 hr and small Web page, "I-Dial")
  • SpaceNet - Gesellschaft f. innovative Netzwerktechnik mbH, Muenchner Technologie Zentrum, Frankfurter Ring 193a, D-80807 Muenchen;
  • Telefon: +49 89 32356.0 Fax 32356.299
  • FAX : +49.89.32356-299
  • 95 prices: Programming 180 DM/hour, Consulting 280 DM /hour.
  • Same building as muc.de.
  • Jul 1996 From: Christian Denz chd@_ERASE_Space.NET
    • Can you offer ISDN with transparent HDLC, (as well as PPP) ?
      IP over HDLC am Banzai-Router, CISCO-Router oder SCO-UNIX mit NET-GW. PPP over HDLC oder X.75 am NetBlazer.
    • Can you offer ISDN with transparent HDLC, (as well as PPP) ?
      Ja, wir bieten Zugaenge per HDLC/X.75 oder PPP/SLIP an.
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• ServerNet GmbH
  • Mail Email
  • Web www.servernet.net
  • Rosenheimer Landstrasse 129,85521 Ottobrunn.
  • Commercial & Private Access
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• TrustCenter
  • I guess a Subsidiary of an IAP, set up for internet security business.
  • TC TrustCenter MAZ Hamburg GmbH, Harburger Sclossstr 6-12, 21079 Hamburg
  • Tel +40.40.76629.0 Fax +40.40.76629.199
  • Web www.trustcenter.net
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• TalkNet
  • Web www.talknet.de
  • DM 4.95/hour
  • Free CD in CT Mag Julyt 1998
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• Teamware
  • Teamware GmbH, Stahlgruberring 11, 81829 Muenchen
  • Tel +49.89.427005.0 Fax +49.89.427005.55
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  • An ISC of Internet Services Gmbh & Co.
  • Web http://www.teamware.com
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• TouchNET
  • Web www.touch.net
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  • Matthias Mahlke mm@_ERASE_touch.net asked me to add their entry Tue 14 Oct 1997
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• Trans.Net
  • Web www.trans.net
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  • @ 11/96 Modem: DM 50 / Month + Mwst, Max 25 Hours, DM 5 per extra hour, 25K Web Home page; ISDN: DM 70 + 15%, < 15MB/month, DM 135 < 25M, DM 5 extra Meg. ; Internet Consultancy DM 160 / hour ; CGI, Java etc DM 140 / Hour
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• VIAG InterKom GmbH & Co.
  • Elsenheimerstr 11, 80687 Muenchen
  • Tel +49.89.5473.8023 Fax +49.89.5473.8284. Tel +49.89.92091260 June 2002
  • Web www.vi.dcinet.de
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• T-Online
  • CT Mag 10.96 Page 24 reported: 1,200,000 customers.
  • CT Mag 4.98 Page 167 reported: Not a member of the DFN/ISPs peering point.
  • Mail Email
  • Hotline@_ERASE_.t-online.de 4 Oct 96 wrote : 8.-DM per month fixed costs Online costs: telephone: you have to pay "Citytarif" t-online 08:00 - 18:00 h = 6Pf/min 18:00 - 08:00 h = 2Pf/min (weekend and holiday too) additional to t-online comes internet at 5Pf/min. You can create your own homepage. You have 1MB memory for the home page, and it is free. An english version of the decoder is being worked on, but we cant say when it will be ready.
  • Tel.: 0130/0190 Fax.: 0731/1004565
  • HughCasement@_ERASE_compuserve.com wrote Sat, 15 Jan 2000
    see the bumf that came with your latest telephone bill. Basically you have a choice between (a) no monthly charge, 6 pf/minute incl. telephone charges (b) DM 8 /month plus a lower rate while on line, I think 5 pf/minute There are other tariffs for heavy users; for example DM 99 for 50 hours a month.
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Similar Info in German

• http://www.heise.de/ct/provider/ CT Magazine did a review of all Nurnberg based providers, Issue 4/98 Page 167
• PC Professionell: "http://www.zdnet.de/internet/isp/" reported From: "Gunnar Anzinger" Fri, 20 Mar 98 23:22:52 +0100
• wk@_ERASE_wolfgang-kopp.de (Wolfgang Kopp):
  Jeden Monat poste ich in muc.infosystems und muc.misc eine Übersicht über die WWW-Listen der Münchner Internet Provider. Die folgenden Uebersichtslisten ueber Internet Provider im Grossraum Muenchen sind derzeit im World Wide Web unter http://home.pages.de/~kopp/provider.html http://www.wolfgang-kopp.de/provider.html den angegebenen Adressen erreichbar.
  • Web Alphabetische Liste von Gunnar Anzinger a@_ERASE_gksoft.com, sehr aktuell
  • Web Uebersicht der GI-Regionalgruppe Muenchen (Peter Jakobi jakobi@_ERASE_informatik.tu-muenchen.de) ueber regionale Provider, incl. Dienstangebot sowie Kosten fuer Basis- Account
    Peter has moved to Hamburg peter.jakobi@_ERASE_airbus.dasa.de, a frozen copy of the list may remain, for details contact Ruediger r.vorndran@_ERASE_gppm.de or failing him, baumgaru@_ERASE_informatik.tu-muenchen.de
• From a magazine 3/1997:
  • Text Web http://www.rrzn.uni-hannover.de/inet-zu-de.html
  • Search Engine Web http://www-cache.rrzn.uni-hannover.de/such-prov.html
  • Search Engine Web http://meta.rrzn.uni-hannover.de/
  • Search Engine Web http://www.bubis.com/provider/provider.htm
• From: "Gunnar Anzinger" 6.98: Zeitschrift mit Provider-Datenbank:
  http://www.focus.de/DD/DDO/ddo.htm
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• ISPs - Germany

  • EUnet Germany Mail Mail
  • Point of Presence Hamburg Mail Mail
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  International Net Access Providers

  2 International Indexes:
  • http://www.herbison.com/herbison/iap_countries_meta_list.html (That page has a pointer back here).
  • Web Yahoo
  • A guess for the UK: Web demon

  Not necessarily IP, perhaps just email.

  • UUNet Mail Email
  • Genie
  • Prodigy (Full Internet)
  • Microsoft Network
  • e.World (apple Computer Network)
  Web The directory of Internet Service/Acces Providers & BBSes nwdirect@_ERASE_netcom.com wrote Fri, 21 Mar 97 09:37:54 -0800: It is the largest ISP directory on the web.
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  Web Page Providers

  • Many firms rent out commercial web page space on their servers. Identify a few ISPs that interest you (perhaps physically nearby, or whatever), then try mailing webmaster@ [whichever web sites in the world you think likely ]
  • For Personal Use many ISPs such as:, Compuserve allow individuals to have web pages.
  • Try also Web http://www.munichonline.com/space.html
  • Copied 96 10 01 from
    Web MunichOnline nigel marsh

    Mail Email company Web DM 57,50 per month.

    Our Standard Web Space Package for companies and other commercial organisations can be updated once a month and costs DM 50,- per month + MwSt, DM 57,50 in total.

    (companies can have order forms)

    Our Active Web Space Package for companies and other commercial organisations can be changed weekly and costs DM 120,- per month + MwSt, DM 138,- in total.

    Our SuperActive Web Space Package for companies and other commercial organisations can be updated daily and costs DM 500,- per month + MwSt, DM 575,- in total.

    Private individuals, freelancers, amateur clubs and non-commercial organisations pay just DM 10,- per month + MwSt, DM 11,50 in total, for our Standard Web Space Package. You can change your pages one time a month.

    Our Active Web Space Package for individuals, freelancers, amateur clubs and non-commercial organisations can be updated weekly and costs DM 60,- per month + MwSt, DM 69,- in total.

    Voluntary and charitable organisations (Karitative Organisationen) pay DM 6,- per month for our Standard Web Space Package. Pages can be updated once a month. Revised September 4, 1996
    Mail Email
  • Web Fouth Level Developments (Don't use chimera for this href) For Private Usage, Remote login accounts with non commercial web pages etc are provided for approx 10/15 UK pounds/month, + an extra 10 for compilers etc.
  • Web pages under Unix, British base: Web www.flevel.co.uk/services/netaccs.html
  • Web Web pages on a USA base, ~1995 prices The Well $15/month, 512K disc, 15 hours connectivity for ftp & news.
  • Web Web pages on a USA base, ~1995 prices James Lowry $45/year, 256K, no ftp or cgi.
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  Server Remote Hosting / Co-location Services / Where You Can Rent Rack Space

  • BSn Web, Email Munich. I have servers there.
  • Verio Hosting/housing all over the US, in London, and soon in Frankfurt/Munich and Amsterdam.
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  Consultants

  • I recommend my firm: Vector Systems Ltd
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  Legal Disclaimer

  Parasite Lawyers

  There are some parasite lawyers in Germany who Abmahn anyone they can extract money from, in any business, or walk of life, they operate on their own behalf, not engaged by clients. The latest scam (Nov.1997) is to screw ISP firms who publish Ex MWST prices. One of the German index list providers has had his list abused by such a lawyer trying to predate on ISPs ! Any lawyer even thinking of doing that with my list would be very stupid, & presumably fail as:

  • This is my personal summary of ISP providers, maintained infrequently & haphazardly.
  • Some firms ask me to list them, but many don't even know this list exists.
  • There's no guarantee the information is correct, or ever was, & I can guarantee it's not all current !
  • No one has ever paid me either to create or maintain this info, maintenance is infrequent & done at low priority, the quality of the information may be considered commensurate.
  • If you want accurate current information about Germany, you are hereby informed my info is Unreliable & Outdated, so go learn the German language, then read the German Indexes Better yet, go read the official web pages of the German providers, they're in business, with staff paid to keep their information current, I'm not, my page is just an incomplete, inaccurate etc, set of pointers.

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  Technical

  • ISP modem pool contention ratios vary far more often than I update this.
  • Up-link traffic congestion varies far more often than I update this.
  • New providers are not always here.
  • Prices change far more frequently than I update this list.
  • A big entry for an ISP does not imply they are any good, neither does the converse.
  • Whether an ISP has a high bandwidth link is far less relevant than what percentage spare bandwidth he has to the net, during his peak traffic period.
  • Caveat Emptor (Buyer Beware) !
  • I have not included non personal tariffs, as it's always changing, & I don't have time to monitor it, I have included personal tariffs in some cases.
  • Factual updates & corrections welcome, (Unix diff -c format much preferred),
    
  • I do not accept undocumented commercial proprietary formats such as Micro$oft Word format.

  Cross Reference URLs

  • A number of people have URLs on their pages pointing to this page, tell me & I'll set up a cross reference back to your pages. http://www.herbison.com/herbison/iap_countries_meta_list.html .
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