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      For business inquiries, please phone my business number , please
       First state you want to Buy Computer
      Consultancy English: For business I can speak English, German or very
      slow FrenchDeutsch: Ja, für
      Geschäft, können wir Deutsch
      reden.
 Francais: Oui, pour le travail, je comprend
      Francais, mais tres lentment, si vous plait !
      
        YOU _MUST_ SPEAK FIRST !I often pick up & say NOTHING !You dialed my number: You Speak First! Identify
        yourself! You expect it's me. I don't expect it's You ;-) I
        have no idea who you are UNTIL YOU SPEAK FIRST.If you happen to call during or after yet another wave
        of criminal Indians, you may get the silent treatment.
        Friends are intelligent enough to speak, giving me their
        pronunciation of my name or theirs, & which human
        language, & a chance to recognise their voice.I am plagued by criminal Indians from call centres,
        faking Microsoft Support. I don't even USE Microsoft
        ! Which compounds the agravation.I have a Lot of numbers, & periodically get swamped
        by persistent cold callers working through all the
        numbers.Most callers for years have been Indian, un-regulated
        by Indian government. All the Indian criminals give very
        rare honest Indian callers a bad name.Callers who phone with a background of music or call
        centre, whose robots then wait for recipient human voice
        before they assign one of their sellers or criminals are
        bad enough.
When then speak in Indian accented German lieing they
        are from Microsoft it's an open invite to swear at them,
        hang up on, put them on hold to lock up their line, or play
        them an mp3 audio track in German, equivalent of eg: "Hallo
        ... Sorry ... What do You want ... Ah ... This is my
        friend's line, please wait while I fetch my friend ... Are
        you still there ? Good hold on a minute I'll try upstairs
        ... Sorry wasn't there, I'll try downstairs, Please
        hold..."Politeness is totally in-appropriate: Best whistle or
        swear loudly & vilely at them about their sex, religion
        or whatever most outrages them. They are parasites, make
        them hate & dump their criminal job, &/or mark your
        number in their lists as one for their colleagues to
        avoid.There's YouTube videos of hijacked web cams spying back
        inside a nest of Indian criminals, go search!
          Numeric Caller ID: 
          
            My current desk phone doesn't display numeric
            caller ID. Wouldn't help much if it did:Some cold callers use analogue lines, or suppress
            caller ID, or fake caller ID, regular with
            criminals.My previous PC display of caller name has failed,
            till I get time to fix it, (Name is extracted from
            numeric look up table in an xterm, from S0 ISDN on
            gateway PC.More 
      I may have other phone numbers for friends, established
      customers, & service suppliers etc. They are not listed
      on the web.
     
      NO GERMAN / KEIN
      DEUTSCH
       Unless you will purchase computer consultancy / 
       Ausser sie Consultancy kaufen wollen.
       Me , my Company  my Associates . 
       I can also chat in German with friends & colleagues,
      but if you Cold Call me in German, you have just seconds to
      declare you want to Buy Computer Consultancy, & are not
      another time Waster (aka phone spammer / call marketer
      etc). Keine Um-Sonst Help
    Desk
      Unless you quickly state your intention to pay me Money for computer consultancy ...
      Rules below apply to phoning me ! - Else I hang
      up. DE: Kein Unter-drucken
    !IT: Le telefonate con numero
    nascosto sono filtrate 
    If You Suppress Caller ID - You Will Annoy Yourself
      Turn Caller ID On !
        Sometimes I do not pick up the phone. 
        
          The computer also shows which of my numbers you
          called. the combination indicates if your call is likely
          a waste.It avoids strangers motor mouthing in various foreign
          languages, usually German, selling, sometimes (worst) in
          Bavarian dialect.It avoids Indian accents lieing from criminal call
          centres, pretending to be Microsoft, when they're
          recruiting suckers to browse their virus site.It avoids strangers scrounging free help. - Use a
          free mail list, eg here for
          FreeBSD.It avoids club acquaintances (`Bekannter') who
          deliberately suppress ID yet want to consume my time. -
          Join club mail
          lists & ask there, or in person when we are both
          attending events I
          organise &/or attend.
          Sometimes I
        pick Up & Remain Silent Until Caller Speaks 
        
          It kills cold sellers, children, idiots, etc, who
          repeatedly call my various numbers, sometimes in unknown
          languages.It allows me to carry on working un-interrupted,
          unless the caller is intelligent enough to speak &
          explain why he/she wants my time, & worse wants to
          disturb me ( I am a programmer, I can
          be deep in debugging a problem, could lose the thread
          just for a useless waster)It avoids those who try by silence to force me to say
          first who I am, so they know how my name is pronounced,
          & they can perhaps pretend acquaintance, when they
          already have the advantage of knowing who they
          dialled.Friends who have old analogue lines that don't
          disclose their ID are intelligent enough to say eg
          "Hallo, Fred here" or at least "Is that ... (with correct
          pronunciation that call centre wasters don't know) ?" to
          break silence. 
      My computer shows your name (if known) from number). &
      may later have different phones ring with different tone for
      anonymous, known wasters, & known friends &
      customers, to indicate if it's worth breaking off &
      coming to the phone.
     Zu Erst: Was Wollen Sie ? - Wollen
    Sie Computer Consultancy Kaufen ?
      
        I get a LOT of wasters (aka spammers) phoning
        me.So I answer "Hallo!" nothing more. You know who you've
        called, you have the advantage,Immediately say what you want & who you are. Else I
        hang up.
Most un-recognised voices in German are just wasters
        selling junk.That makes it difficult to recognise new customers calling
        me.
 Meist unbekannte Stimmen in Deutsch
        versuchen mir etwas zu verkaufen, also es ist in ihre
        eigene besten interesse, entweder English zu sprechen, oder
        erklaren sie schnell & Klar, welche Computer
        Consultancy sie kaufen wollen.
Depending which phone number you ring from your end,
        & to which number my end, & time & day in week,
        & language, I take a guess if you're yet another
        waster, or someone I want to talk to. That guess dictates
        how long before I hang up.Maybe I'll say eg "Hallo" & nothing more &
        wait.I get too many junk sellers phoning, I hang up in a few
        seconds.You know who you hoped to call, & what you
        want.Say what you want & who you are.I don't hold on the line if I suspect another time
        waster. !Occasionally callers are too obtuse or arrogant &
        try to force me to identify my name before they identify
        their number, name, what they want, & sometimes even
        their language.I've knows Germans British & other nationals all
        that daft, I hang up on them.I don't give my name or other info, until I've forced
        you to state what you want & your name. You have the
        advantage of me, you already know who you phoned, probably
        checked my web pages, give me parity, or I hang up.Sometimes the clueless ask if my number is ......., no
        way I'm answering that, I have about 10 numbers, won't
        check 'em all, & if the call is in German, or worse,
        Bavarian, I'm certainly not going to re-invert / decode all
        the inverted doublets of digits & worse jumbles, that
        Germans emit, then match that against a list (not to hand)
        of all of mine ! Do NOT give your name as the first word of the call
      !Zu Erst: Was Wollen Sie Kaufen ?
      Nur Spater: Ihre Name & Firma Name !
        
          Make Your First Words eg "Hello", "Good Morning",
          "Guten Tag", "Bonjour!"Give me time to realise what language(s) you speak
          ! & What languages your accent suggests you might
          also speak & I might also mix in.Do Not say your name & company names as first
          words in a stream of fast German!Yes some used to assert that's the polite normal [old
          fashioned] way in German. Irrelevant to me.
          (Similar Dodos asserted correct German order to
          write a CV/Lebenslauf, was school, University, First Job,
          Latest Job on last page. Younger computer professional
          were among the first to see the light & rectify
          that.)I have No Interest in remembering your name &
          company, until I hear a Reason to remember !What do you want to buy ? & do ?Nearly all callers here in fast German are wasters
          that I dump in seconds.Identify yourself fast as a buyer, not a waster.Friends & customers I'll happily talk to in
          German too.Until you tell me you want to buy Computer
          Consultancy, I assume you're another waster & hang up
          very fast.I spend my day working on complex problems in the
          international computer industry language: English, not
          German! I Do not welcome interruptions in German unless
          you wish to purchase computer consultancy. Rufen Sie mir an, nur im English (nicht Englisch ;-) ,
    fails sie nicht Computer Consultancy kaufen
    wollen.
      Do not phone in German : 
      
        As your call rings:Unless you start by saying you will Buy Computer ConsultancyExpect me to hang up, fast ! (Most callers in German
        whose voices I don't recognise, who can't pronounce my name
        are wasters selling junk or harvesting info). 
        If you want my time, Start in English, even if we later
      oscillate between English & German.
       He Who Helps, Determines Which
      Language we start in.
          My computer shows & logs: 
          
            Name (not number) of any known caller, OrNumber of unknown caller, Or"From NotAvailable" if old analogue or
            withheldWhich of my numbers you called, eg: business/
            private/ clubs/ spammed from phone book, etc.If caller's number is NotAvailable
          
            Both techniques worth using
              If a repeat caller, I may just pick up & say "Uh
              Huh !?" which forces caller to speak, & doesn't
              disclose which language I use by default. 
              
                they hate that, which pleases me,until then they know who I should be, whereas I
                know nothing about them.I get their language (often enough not German
                or English, but some foreigner) If I don't
                recognise their voice, & they demand to know
                who I am & they're not offering to purchase
                computer consultancy, they're Wasters & get
                Dumped.If caller starts in German :If a stranger fails to start by asking to buy Computer Consultancy ....
              If I hear motor mouth Fast German from an
              unrecognised voice, 
              
                If I suspect a robotised pause for answer &
                sales queuer: Caller gets classified & filed
                as: "Waster" : The response varies, sometimes
                  (Sometimes I don't just hang up, I do
                  better: I deliberately give initial answers to
                  robot to engage the queue for human 2nd level
                  response, then leave the phone on desk,
                  occasionally using keys or speech to lock up
                  their sales robot or human, so they can't waste
                  so many other innocent people's time as
                  well).Or I interrupt more loudly in English ""ERR
            .. Do you want to buy Computer Consultancy
            ?" (Which last brought a friendly laugh &
            response in English from German sales girl), & a
            friendly & quick agreement we had no need to talk
            to each other.  as I find having my concentration interrupted
          by phone, to be sold at in a foreign language by someone
          who hides his number, as most offensive, & worth
          inconveniencing them in return, to the extent, they might
          note my number as too troublesome to call again.Some clueless people from a moribund club used to phone
        me in German, re. English club events & mail lists I
        help run / organise, they ignored all of { the club's
        raison d'etre - to operate in English - & events info,
        my web pages, & mail
        list announcements I make are } all in English.I give a lot of time organising events, & running
        lists & servers, I can't afford to lose concentration
        & more time unpaid, listening in German, explaining
        & reasoning in German.Those club lists are nearly all for English speakers,
        so if you want my time unpaid: save me assuming you're
        another waster : Speak English at least until you get
        stuck, then we'll switch.)If you cant speak English, go join a German club
        instead, in Germany, finding a German speaking club isn't
        hard in Germany ;-) (though we've had a few weirdos who
        persevere in Not speaking English & want organisers
        & all others of various nationalities on an event to
        all speak German just 'cos one misfit can't listen in
        English  I'm happy mixing 50/50 English
      & German with friends, & in German in German clubs I
      join, but If you want to phone me in 100% German, quickly
      declare yourself a customer who wants to pay me for computer
      consultancy.
     
      
        I am English - Ich spreche auch
        Deutsch - Aber Nur Hoch- Deutsch ! * Nur Für
        Bezahlender Kunden ! Ich will
        Kein Bayerisch Hören oder Lernen!Give all you numbers in single digit strings - not
        German swapped digit pair format. - Bei Nummern, sagen sie einzelne Ziffern, links nach
        rechts, nicht Paarweise rum-gefummelt !I have the usual English difficulty recognising German
        pronunciation of individual alphabet letters. I don't
        recognise umlaut pronunciation at all.Use the International
        Alphabet (For both German & English).   TIME ZONE - Central
    Europe, GermanyAll Berklix servers can
    report current time
    & date.
      Physically
        In Munich,
        Bavaria, Germany. Central European Time  zone. TZ =
        "GMT+01:00" or "Germany/Berlin". 1 hour ahead of London,
        England. Same Summer time switch over dates as London. In
        (northern hemisphere) summer, London is 1 hour ahead of
        Greenwich Mean Time = UTC, & Munich is 2 hours ahead.
      Office Hours
        
          NOT available at 08:00 in Munich
          Germany, Do NOT phone till long after !Not before 09:30 Munich time
          (Except where it cannot be avoided, eg perhaps from
          Asia). I work London City
          (commercial not civil service) office hours eg 09:30 -
          18:30 UK (GMT or BST) time. That's 10:30 - 19:30+ in
          Munich.Early evening calls OK. 
        European Time Zones
        Are Way Ahead From All American Time Zones ! 
        
          
            
              | Realise there is a World out there ! 
                  & It's way off from American clocks ! Sure
                  some pay attention, but some don't care. Here's a
                  graphic reminder of the globe: 
                     
                  On the other page 
                  with time zones etc ... Is Europe not on the
                  right ? Has Europe rotated well into the dark ?
                  Is Australia edging into the dawn ? Then do Not
                  phone Europe now ! Email 
                  &/or phone tomorrow earlier.
                Phone Europe in the American morning,not at end of American West coast business
                day!
 
                  I may take calls late my end, if motivated, &
                  preferably after prior warning. It might be OK,
                  Phoning late & trying, or by accident &
                  saying eg "Oh is it that late your end, Are you
                  tired ? Should I phone you earlier tomorrow ?"
                  ... But ...
                 Do NOT Aggressively Phone After Midnight
                & Demand I WorkExamples of 2 stupid aggressive men who Failed to
                get what they demanded:
 
                  A Toronto lawyer who persisted trying to
                  negotiate stupid contract terms after being told
                  it was 2 to 3
                  AM my end. The Canadian multi-national
                  company he worked for phoned numerous times
                  before & after midnight for non emergencies,
                  The CFO & his lawyer engaged in evil to avoid
                  their company paying our team for work done. We
                  sued & got paid.A Californian Japanese programmer in a public
                  domain project phoned & tried to force me to
                  work immediately (unpaid) even after being told
                  it was ~2 in the morning & I needed to sleep.
                  I never worked with him. He too failed to get
                  what he wanted. |  Do Not Call outside European Business
        HoursUnless you have already paid me or my company Money
 
          Global
          Position Probably NOT Current,
            
              |  I No Longer Trust Customer Assumptions That The
                Management Of Their Company Will Automatically Pay
                For Work Agreed Done - So A Deposit Is Often
                Required. 
                  So I don't work outside European
                  Business Hours till I or my company
                  receives money.No offence, but some companies are rogues,
                  & a few at management level are dishonest
                  & can not be trusted to stick to a deal &
                  pay, even when a customer engineer signs off on
                  acceptance test, & agrees the work's fine
                  & the bill should be paid.Experience: Sued & won 2 debts, + dealt
                  with 3 other attempted rip offs in 28 years.Companies usually pay their employees through
                  hard times, as it's harder to evade paying
                  employees than is to evade & / or delay
                  paying external service providers So employee
                  project managers etc may not always know if their
                  company is short of cash.Even less can I predict if some customer top
                  manager will perceive business circumstances
                  change, & an order he signed last week may
                  look less beneficial now, so a top manager may
                  provoke a problem, as an excuse to terminate
                  contract, & pose to his fellow executives, as
                  tough, beating up a service provider he ordered
                  from the week before.Before you phone me to work outside European
                  Business Hours please first check your
                  company has paid me or my
                  company
                    If your company hasn't paid me or my company
                    yet 
                    
                      Perhaps because I
                      &/or colleagues & my company has
                      been working flat out all hours for you &
                      hasn't had time to pause technical work to
                      assemble & issue a bill yetGet your company to issue me or
                      my
                      company an advance on services, some
                      money Up Front (possibly in Escrow
                      if we agree)I &
                      my
                      company won't work out of hours for your
                      company on unsecured credit.Your company must front money or
                      security.A signed contract is No security, just an
                      aggravating obligation on both sides, with
                      option to litigate to wait years for money.
                      We don't work for that.If you want computer consultancy outside
                      European business hours, prior to your
                      company paying in to our account, get your
                      local representative to go to your bank or
                      their bank or cash machine (ATM) in Europe,
                      & draw substantial cash or get a bankers
                      draft issued, (Not a cheque drawn on your
                      company account, & not a transfer that
                      can be revoked). Americans etc: Do
                NOT Phone Me Before Checking MY
                Timezone! 
                  Experience shows local project managers of
                  near all customers Can be trusted, but senior
                  remote managers of some customers can Not be
                  trusted.I work late, but & so: in the late night
                  & early morning Only extremely urgent &
                  important technical & service problems
                  interest me, (eg multiple server failure), NOT
                  merely arguing contract terms & money with
                  idiot managers, lawyers, & programmers from
                  Canada & USA - that can & must wait, it
                  is NOT urgent! Learn at that time you don't
                  matter & are irrelevant. I've had all of
                  idiot American/ Canadian lawyers & managers
                  for commercial companies, & non commercial
                  volunteer FreeBSD project committers phone me in
                  the middle of the night for non urgent rubbish,
                  It did the callers & their companies &
                  projects no benefit, they got nothing except
                  contempt.Only if you
                  have also already paid me or my companyOnly if first payment has already been
                  received & verified cleared funds by my or my company's
                  bank. |  Click For Real Global
          Position & Times,
 
   
          Make sure your browser & gateway are not caching
          old pages with old times! (To check, click reload a few
          times & see seconds increase).A "CEST" acronym means Central European Summer
          Time. 
        Do Not Put Me On Hold !
          Put me on `hold' for more than a few seconds, & I'll
          hang up on you. I will not call or mail you back, nor
          think further what we were talking about; You thought it
          was un-important, your problem to restore context.
         I Will Not Put You On Hold
          If I hear a call ringing signal my end while talking to
          you: I will glance at the display to see name of person
          calling, I will Not put you on hold to talk to them,
          though I may arrange to call you later, if the other
          caller might be an urgent mobile , & you might be re-callable
          later.
         
        Stop Press 2025-01: 
         
          
            We've moved from Munich to Aachen, Germany
            Numbers might auto forward for a while c/o Deutsche
            Telekom. I am currently publishing No public phone
            numbers, to avoid wasters who scrape the net. Higher
            priority phone numbers are available once your company
            has made first payment to me or my company. 
            Business inquiries most welcome. The number is a
            normal ones, Not an expensive support tariff, Phone
            company does not pay me a fee when you phone me
            (So first tell me if you can afford & will
            pay me at full professional consultant rates, till that
            is answered, your technical issues don't much interest
            me; I always have enough tech issues of my own to
            explore, don't waste your time asking me for free
            support, use a technical
            mail list or web forum
            instead). Alphabet
            Pronunciation For when German & English
            speakers confuse each other with pronunciation ;-) 
+49 241 ________ Desk
+49 ________ Mobile German
+44 ________ Mobile British
+ is international symbol for whatever it takes to get out
of country (used to be 010 in UK, probably also 00 works
now in UK) 00 works in Europe. Mobile phones automatically
emit what's appropriate to where they are if one stores
number as '+' better than '00'.
 
        I am on a normal (non premium, non {mobile =cell=handy} line. 
         If business just call me. If you're a friend Not calling
        from a premium rate or {mobile =cell=handy}, I can call you back if
        you remind me (per flat rate of Deutsche Telekom 
        "CountryFlat(1.4)" (Tariff price 3.31 + MWSt = 3.94
        Euro/month at March 2011, for "Die Flatrate fürs
        benachbarte Ausland, USA, Kanada, Australien und
        Westeuropa"), to any normal terrestrial (non premium, non
        mobile ) in 
         
          America = USA, Andorra, Australia, Austria, Belgium,
          Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Great Britain inc Isle
          of Man & Channel islands), Greece, Ireland, Italy,
          Lichtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway,
          Poland, Portugal, San Marino, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland,
          Czech Republik
          (Tschechien) , Vatican City. 
           
            USA & Canada mobiles as 0, yet Britain &
            Austria as 28 cents/min. !Doesn't list Deutschland, which would have been
            useful to see mobile rates to Telekom's &
            competitive nets, (info removed to some other page as
            not foreign I suppose).Not sure about calls to premium rate numbers in
            other countries eg UK 08 "You have just been `serviced'
            ;-)" numbers.Nomenclature:Wondering whether to call it Mobile (UK),
        Cell (USA), or Handy (German) ?Call Diversion
          When I'm not available at the Munich office, calls are
          re-routed, costs you nothing more, saves you using other
          numbers, & quality does not suffer (I'm not using
          Skype).
         
 
      Some of these look up services provider a map of roughly
      where caller is, so if they are calling you in the middle of
      the night, look up their global time , then call
      them back in the middle of Their night ;-) 
      
 
      
        | COUNTRY | NUMBER | DESCRIPTION | SOURCE |  
        | DE | 0137 | EXPENSIVE, 1 euro per call, tele-voting, abused. | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premium-rate_telephone_number#Germany |  
        | DE | 0190 | EXPENSIVE Rip Off, Old, Terminated 2005-12-31 | CT Mag year=2005, edition=21 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premium-rate_telephone_number#Germany
 |  
        | DE | 01901-01909 | Final digit indicates call rate. | CT Mag year=2005, edition=21 |  
        | DE | 0191 | Info | CT Mag year=2005, edition=21 |  
        | DE | 0193 | Entertainment | CT Mag year=2005, edition=21 |  
        | DE | 0195 | Porn | CT Mag year=2005, edition=21 |  
        | DE | 0900 | EXPENSIVE. | CT Mag year=2005, edition=21 |  
        | DE | 09009 | Obligatory for EXPENSIVE rip off dialer programs | CT Mag year=2005, edition=21 |  
        | UK | 118 | Can be Service Charge of more than 7p per minute or per
        call | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premium-rate_telephone_number#United_Kingdom |  
        | UK | 01 & 02 & 03 | Standard rate. |  |  
        | UK | 070 | Can be Service Charge of more than 10 per minute or per
        call | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premium-rate_telephone_number#United_Kingdom |  
        | UK | 080 | Free from land-lines and
        mobiles. | www.saynoto0870.com |  
        | UK | 0808 | Free (In USA 808 used by
        time waster $5/min) | www.saynoto0870.com |  
        | UK | 0844 | EXPENSIVE | www.saynoto0870.com www.moneysavingexpert.com/phones/0870-say-no
 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premium-rate_telephone_number#United_Kingdom
        up to 7p per call and/or up to 7p per minute
 |  
        | UK | 0845 | EXPENSIVE Calls to 084 and 087 numbers incur both an
        Access Charge of up to 12p per minute from land-lines or up
        to 55p per minute from mobiles and a Service Charge of up
        to 7p per minute or per call for 084 numbers or up to 13p
        per minute or per call for 087 numbers. | www.saynoto0870.com www.moneysavingexpert.com/phones/0870-say-no
 |  
        | UK | 0847 | EXPENSIVE | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premium-rate_telephone_number#United_Kingdom
        up to 13p per call and/or up to 13p per minute |  
        | UK | 087 | EXPENSIVE | www.saynoto0870.com www.moneysavingexpert.com/phones/0870-say-no
 |  
        | UK | 0871 | EXPENSIVE | www.saynoto0870.com www.moneysavingexpert.com/phones/0870-say-no
 |  
        | UK | 09 | ULTRA EXPENSIVE up to £6.00 per call and/or up to
        £3.60 per minute | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premium-rate_telephone_number#United_Kingdom
        098 + legacy 0908 & 0909 are sex. |  Copied from 
    https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/cordless-phones/article/nuisance-calls-who-s-calling-me-and-how-to-report-them-a3SbH9r0lMj1:
    Uisance calls.
 
 Phone Scams : A comment
    credited to ljk@ :
      Temporary file in edit main/Common one is to call someone, tell them to put the phone
      down and call their bank, or wherever relevant for the scam
      if they are not sure. However on UK landlines, the call is
      held by the caller, so when the target puts the phone down
      and picks it up again, the scammer generates a ring tone and
      makes it seem as though the target has made a new call. The
      scammer then answers - usually a different person, and then
      plays the scam.Basically, never trust anyone who phones up, whether
      computer, tax, bank or any other financial topic. Always
      phone back the particular organisation fraud team on another
      phone, using a number you have, not one the potential
      fraudsters give you. If it's obviously a fraud, hopefully the
      particular organisation can do something about it.If you do get called by one of the scumbags, it is rather
      fun to keep them on the line for as long as possible, seeming
      like you are an idiot. They usually get rather annoyed. Even
      better if you can find out anything about them!!! 3rd Party Pages Requested
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